tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post616757971504842479..comments2023-08-07T16:41:49.660+02:00Comments on Die Klimazwiebel: Schiermeier in nature - quoting incorrectlyeduardohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17725131974182980651noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post-22243020468526681492010-02-24T20:25:30.023+01:002010-02-24T20:25:30.023+01:00Following a demand by Mcmillan publishers I have d...Following a demand by Mcmillan publishers I have deleted three posts in this thread - which were seen as "defamatory postings". Unfortunately I have also deleted my own one, which was not part of the complaint.<br />Therefore, I repost it here:<br /><br />------------------<br />In some blogs it has been claimed that nature would have "invented" an interview with me - likely based on my statement "I have not spoken with Mr Schiermeier about regional modelling, at least not recently". This statement was insofar misleading that I had spoken with Quirin Schiermeier on December 8 (see my later <a href="http://klimazwiebel.blogspot.com/2010/01/update-on-schieirmeier-quotes.html" rel="nofollow">post on this blog</a>, which I actually had forgotten. I would, however, qualify a telephone conversation six weeks earlier not as "recent". Thus, claims that nature had "invented" a conversation are false, and I did not make such claims. <br />What I said was that the direct quotes were inaccurate, and indeed, Mr Schiermeier admits in the post, referenced above, that he failed to ask for authorization. When time limits are tights, this may be understandable, but I consider this inadequate journalistic practice – when first notes are scribbled down during a phone conversation, things may be have been said in ways, which may be understood in different ways, the notes are a short and possibly inadequate short version, and finally the translation into a different language may further move the original answer further away form what was meant. That is way direct quotes need to be authorized, also by a journal like "nature".<br />The request for authorization is directed only at direct quotes; if the journalist describes his or her perception – in indirect quotes – that is fine for me. <br />After I had an exchange with Quirin Schiermeier (see above posting), I cosnider the the episode as being clarified, and I have no bad feelings towards Quirin Schiermeier - even if I seriously hope that his journal and he himself will change the practice of using unauthorized direct quotes. I am, however, less than pleased that various blogs transformed my statement into the false claim of "invention".Hans von Storchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08778028673130006646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post-41934640870093737182010-01-22T12:33:16.250+01:002010-01-22T12:33:16.250+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post-9571161537699825222010-01-22T05:19:54.321+01:002010-01-22T05:19:54.321+01:00Regarding myth nr 1 : also consider reliability of...Regarding myth nr 1 : also consider reliability of GCMs<br />Drs von Storch and Zorita,would you be willing to debate a mathematician and numerical annalist who has some basic questions on GCMs but has been unable to get any response from the climate modelers he approached?<br />The discussion is on Climate Audit under J Curry's review of Lindzen and Choi 2009. You could join there or reply here. The question is :<br />Gerald Browning<br />Posted Jan 19, 2010 at 5:58 PM | Permalink | Reply<br /><br />Judith Curry,<br /><br />Can you now give as careful a review of the problems with climate models?<br /><br />No mathematician or numerical analyst would believe that a finite difference approximation of the atmospheric and oceanic equations with the real atmospheric and oceanic dissipation rates is accurate for more than a few<br />days. In this regard see the spread of error from an inaccurate approximation of the surface boundary layer to higher altitudes in a few days in Sylvie Gravel’s manuscript on this site. Note that this error growth is due to only one parameterization error. It is not hard to imagine the<br />problems due to other parameterization errors, especially in the tropics where the total (net) heating is dominant, but very poorly understood.<br /><br />If a long time scale is crucial to understanding climate sensitivity, climate models have no mathematical or numerical justification for determining that sensitivity. They are basically a WPA project for<br />scientists that are dependent on them for publications without the use of rigorous mathematical analysis.<br /><br />As one final note, can you please provide a rigorous mathematical explanation for convective adjustment, i.e., the artificial conversion of a small columnar feature (instability)into a large scale hydrostatic feature?<br />In particular, what impact does that adjustment have on the numerical<br />accuracy of the finite difference approximation of the continuous dynanical equations?<br /><br />JerryH Haknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post-37053043730524032352010-01-21T23:20:02.519+01:002010-01-21T23:20:02.519+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.richardtolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14239680555557587153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post-88747354193334817972010-01-21T18:20:31.034+01:002010-01-21T18:20:31.034+01:00Schiermeier does not appear very concerned about a...Schiermeier does not appear very concerned about accuracy. In his latest post on the Nature Climate feedback blog, about the IPCC error, I found 7 typos!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8216971263350849959.post-82181557790923657332010-01-21T17:07:59.146+01:002010-01-21T17:07:59.146+01:00Verb: handle with kid gloves
1.(idiomatic) (US) T...Verb: handle with kid gloves<br /><br />1.(idiomatic) (US) To treat something very delicately or carefully. <br />The campaign staff cautioned the candidate to handle the issue with kid gloves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com