Sunday, March 14, 2010

News, March 2010

Some news about running this blog:

  • The latest vote; "I am a skeptic/warmist". 207 responses were logged; in an initial phase, the number warmists and skeptics balanced each other, but after a week, or so, almost only skeptics voted. The final result, after two weeks:
    strong warmists - 19/ 9%;
    moxerate warmists - 15/ 7%;
    moderate doubter - 86/ 42%
    deniers - 66 / 32%;
    no opinion - 3 / 1%
    other - 18/ 9%
    Thus, a large majority of those, who voted, consider themselves to be moderate doubters or even deniers.
  • New vote. A new vote has been prepared, but it will need some time to have it up and running (because of unrelated work taking precedence). We may have to do this new vote via doodle - or does somebody knows how to run a more complex votes on blogspot?
  • In the last weeks, we have changed the counting of visitors - from klicks ot "new" visitors. A visitor is "new", when his/her last klick was done more than 1 hour ago.
  • Issues to be discussed: I noticed that we have to discuss the issue of mathematics, of "the" equations, which simply do not exist. Navier-Stokes is part of the story, but only part, maybe the simpler part. Also the question whether climate is an issue of long averages should be deepened a bit.
    For those who want to read more, and are not too much embarrassed by my advertising, I may point to two books, which may be useful:

    Müller, P., and H. von Storch, 2004: Computer Modelling in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences - Building Knowledge. Springer Verlag Berlin - Heidelberg - New York, 304pp, ISN 1437-028X

  • and

    von Storch, H., S. Güss und M. Heimann, 1999: Das Klimasystem und seine Modellierung. Eine Einführung. Springer Verlag ISBN 3-540-65830-0, 255 pp

Hans von Storch


    Unknown said...

    Dear Hans,

    the prices of the books are apart from each other by a factor of more than 3 (Amazon quotes 123 EUR for the newer vs. 38.95 EUR for the older one). Can you recommend the German book for our purposes or have so many modeling details changed between 1999 and 2004, that the new book is a must-read as an introduction?



    Hans von Storch said...

    the 1999 book does not contain results of the past 10 years, true, but the basics are really unchanged. we wrote it as an introduction for intelligent, well-educated people (for instance with a diploma in a natural science discipline), who may be interested in applying climate model data in their own research; or who would like to understand the context better.
    Maybe, you find the books in your library?